Those of you who know me know that I have my share of issues with this whole “Occupy (Insert name of Street or City Here)” movement. For the most part, my issues stem from a general lack of tolerance for hypocrisy. I don’t take Teabaggers seriously because they whine about taxes while at the same time complaining about potholes that aren’t getting filled. For much the same reasons I don’t have much use for people who wear designer jeans and drink Starbucks coffee while they Tweet on their iPhones about the evils of corporate America.
For the most part, though, my problems with OWS are not so much with the message as with the messengers. While the issues surrounding economic inequality in this country are real and important, I don’t feel the reluctance of the white middle class to repay their student loans ranks terribly high among them.
As time has gone by, though, I find myself less and less enamored of the message behind the protests. In fact, the entire movement has completely failed to impress me. This concerned me at first, mainly because I felt I should be impressed. Economic equality is just the sort of socialist idea I can really get behind, so on the surface it really appeared to be my kind of movement. But once I looked hard at the movement – looked below the surface – I realized it’s not actually my kind of movement at all.
Why? Because it’s got no soul. It’s got no heart. It is a movement that is incapable of seeing beyond itself. Or maybe it’s just unwilling to. It has been called an inherently selfish movement by many (myself included), although it may be more fair to call it ‘self centered’ or ‘self-absorbed’.
I’ve heard the arguments – that we should endeavor to look beyond the iPhones and the designer jeans to the message beneath. That the ‘message’ of OWS is in their words, not their behaviors (any 4-year-old can tell you differently). Here’s a news flash: the message is getting out to the world, and it is loud and clear. But it isn’t necessarily the message OWS thinks it’s broadcasting. If you bring a gun to an anti-war protest, your message is not one of peace, no matter what you say.
I have repeatedly seen attempts to compare OWS to the civil rights movement, as well as to the anti-war counterculture movements of the 1960s. All of these attempts have failed, and in their failure they underscore the fundamental shortcomings of OWS. Its lack of a soul. Its absence of heart.
First off, lets dismiss any comparisons to the civil rights movement. I’m sorry, but placing OWS into the same category with Freedom Rides is almost insulting. Let’s face facts here, people – those actively participating in the major events of the American civil rights movement were risking a great deal more than a dose of pepper spray. And while a faceful of pepper spray is not exactly a pleasant experience, in comparison to the civil rights movement participating in OWS is practically risk free. They also were fighting for rights on a far different level than those claimed by OWS. They weren’t looking for a bigger slice of the pie – they just wanted to be allowed into the restaurant. Those occupying Wall Street may argue differently, but in the eyes of the law, the 99% have the same rights as the 1% (in theory, at least). This was not the case for African Americans well into the twentieth century. Today, no African American can legally be stopped from drinking out of a public water fountain. The importance of this statement cannot be understood by anyone who would compare OWS to the civil rights movement.
When the proponents of OWS compare it to the anti-war counterculture movements of the 1960s, they are on slightly less shaky ground. But only slightly. The movements of the 1960s – like OWS – were primarily white middle-class movements. And this is pretty much where the comparisons end. When we start looking for more similarities is when the self-absorption of OWS stands out.
In both cases, we’re talking about the (primarily white) middle class. We’re talking about people who have every door open to them. Who have every opportunity available to them. Who have every right and privilege handed to them. From this starting point, vastly different messages arose.
OWS looks to the gap between itself and the 1% and says to the world: “This inequality is inexcusable. We should not have to settle for what we have when these few have so much. As a society, we should take steps to reduce what they have so that the rest of us can have more.”
In contrast, those protesting in the 1960s looked to the gap between themselves and those who had less and said to the world: “This inequality is inexcusable. We should not allow members of our society to have so little when we have so much. As a society, we should take steps to increase what they have, even if it means decreasing what we have.”
The movements of the 1960s were selfless (this is not to say that there were no egos involved). They were about ending war. They were about treating each other fairly. They were about striving toward equality by giving – not by taking.
Those on the ground in the 1960s also saw inherent flaws in American consumer culture. They too saw rampant consumption and pervasive greed, and they feared the results of them. Their response to it, though, was almost opposite to OWSers – they opted out. When they saw a culture of avarice that they felt had eroded their society and threatened their world, their response was to turn their backs on it – not to demand more of it. Thus the term ‘counterculture’.
If OWS had occurred in the 1960s, iPhones wouldn’t have been used to Tweet about it. They would have been used as firewood.
The counterculture movements of the 1960s possessed something that OWS sadly lacks. They had heart, soul and yes – even magic. Because of this, they gave birth to greatness. Heroes don’t give birth to movements – movements give birth to heroes. The 1960s produced the likes of Abbie Hoffman and the rest of the Chicago Seven. (The civil rights movement produced even bigger giants.)
This is the soul that OWS lacks. And without it I feel it is doomed to failure. Where is its Hoffman, its Dylan, its Joplin, its Baez?
Speaking of which, where in hell is the music? How is it that this movement has inspired so little? Oh – I know that the people on the ground have been attempting to write songs. I’ve listened to some of them. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.
And I was going to continue my decades-old practice of ignoring Third Eye Blind, but I will go so far as to give them 10 bonus points for offering their song as a free download. And then I’ll take 5 of those points away because one of the places they posted it is their Facebook page. However, you’re fooling yourself if you see their “anthem” as anything other than a thinly-veiled attempt to resuscitate their dead careers.
The 1960s, though, produced music of a different sort. The kind of music that never goes out of style. The kind of music that understands that peace is the answer to war, love is the answer to hatred, and generosity is the answer to greed. The kind of music that shines light into dark places and makes flowers grow there.
The kind of music that can somehow magically transform half a million sweaty, mud-caked, tripping hippies into Stardust.


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November 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
twindaddy
This a very well written and insightful post. I, too, have issues with the movement. I agree that the economic structure of this country needs to be altered, and I definitely agree with OWS that the influence of corporations over our politicians needs to end. But the redistribution of wealth troubles me. Too many people in this country already get way more than they deserve without working for it. I have a problem with people who receive from society without contributing to it.
November 21, 2011 at 11:50 am
Terry
I think the problems lies in that there really isn’t a democratic solution to economic inequality. If we REALLY wanted to fix it we could, but the majority of Americans wouldn’t be happy with the solution. If you think about it, economic equality is rather easy to achieve: 1) Put everyone to work. 2) Tax everyone around 90%. 3) Take care of everyone.
A simple solution, but how many Americans do you think would go for it?
November 21, 2011 at 12:21 pm
twindaddy
Putting everyone to work is one of the problems we are already facing and 90% seems excessive.
The problem with doing it that way is that will give no one incentive to overachieve.
November 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Terry
I didn’t say we give everyone a job they want – I said put them to work.
And lets not worry about overachieving until we first get everyone achieving.
There are ways to achieve economic equality. It’s just that none of them fit acceptably into the American way of life. This is where OWS is running into trouble. And it’s where their hypocrisy shines through. Do you think they really want everyone to be on level economic ground? Do you think they’d be happy if everyone drove the same car and carried the same phone and had the same size TV?
I don’t. In fact, I don’t think economic equality is what they want at all. I think economic equality is a catchphrase they are using because they don’t want to admit to their own self-absorption.
November 21, 2011 at 4:11 pm
twindaddy
I still don’t have any idea what exactly they want and they won’t really say. I don’t get it.
November 22, 2011 at 8:55 am
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
I disagree with a lot of your premises.
The first part of your missive comes off with “oh, these kids should just shut up and suck it up because Corporate America gave them all these wonderful things like iPhones and designer jeans” – all made in China. That’s what Corporate America did – they made us dependent on China rather than ourselves. They sent our jobs to China rather than hiring our kids. And why? Is it because we can’t do the work? No – the American workforce is one of the most productive, per capita, in the world. Is it because US-made goods would be too expensive? Not really – in the bigger scheme of things. Our economy has doubled in the past couple of decades, but wages have remained flat – that was not the case in decades prior. The money is there, but it has been skimmed off and accumulated at the top.
That’s the effect of the past several decades of supply-side economics, going back to the Reagan era. Trickle-down economics – but history has proven that nothing trickles down. And now the result of all the supply-side economics is that it’s gone way past the point of equilibrium, and the problem is on the DEMAND side.
Next, it’s not about taking away from the overachievers and giving to underachievers, it’s about setting up a level playing field so that all Americans get the SAME deal. Why should megacorporations be able to get away with paying 0% taxes, while small businesses suffer? Why should a multimillionaire hedge fund manager be able to get away with paying 15% income tax while the next guy pays more than double that?
The first step is to do away with loopholes like this, and level the playing field. Is it really “taking from the rich” to expect them to pay 35% like most other working Americans do, rather than 15% by capital gains rate? Is it really “taking away” from megacorporations to no longer let them get away with paying 0% and to make them pay the same as small business?
Nobody I know is looking for handouts or freebies. Nobody I know wants to make the rich dirt poor and make the poor rich. All anyone is asking for is a level playing field, where all Americans have the same opportunities to achieve and where all Americans have the same deal.
November 22, 2011 at 9:42 am
Terry
I agree with most of what you wrote. I am not – nor have I ever been – trying to defend corporate America.
But the evils of corporate America do not automatically make OWS right. I think this is where so many proponents of OWS are getting confused. Just as two opposing sides of an issue can both be right, so can two opposing sides of an issue both be wrong.
And I don’t particularly care how the first part of my missive ‘comes off’. I will call hypocrisy as I see it, and I’ve never had much tolerance for it. Tweeting about the evils of corporate America on an iPhone is just plain hypocritical. You’ll have to excuse me for not taking it seriously.
November 22, 2011 at 10:33 am
Bill Dollins (@billdollins)
I am very much in agreement with Terry on the actual message of OWS. I have, however, been concerned recently with undertones among some who disagree with OWS that their methods are somehow not valid. (I don’t believe Terry has ever hinted as such.) I think their methods are fine, even if I am not particularly sympathetic to their message.
I get concerned that people conflate protected methods of expression with the merits of message being expressed because speech cannot be freely expressed if confined to narrowly defined “acceptable” channels.
That said, I think the time is fast approaching (if not already here) where OWS protesters, if they truly feel they have a legitimate cause, need to transform from a protest movement into a political one and actually try to get some of their people elected to affect the change they seek. I don’t particularly agree with the Tea Party either but they have been very effective in that regard. I can’t say that I would actually vote for an OWS candidate (as I probably wouldn’t vote for a Tea Party candidate) but it’s time for them to move from symbolism to action.
November 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
There are indeed different things at play – one being expression of free speech. Given the First Amendment’s guarantees for freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and freedom to petition for governmental redress of grievances, there’s not much that anyone who values the Constitution can criticize there. Next, you have the opposition to that expression of speech – pepperspraying peaceful, non-violent protesters who are sitting on a sidewalk as with UC Davis. Pepperspraying an 84 year old woman as with Occupy Seattle. Shooting a nonviolent protester in the face with a tear gas canister and fracturing his skull, and setting off a flash-bang grenade as people went to help him as happened in Oakland. The use of violence and brutality has invalidated the opposition. That’s precisely how British rule of India was invalidated during Gandhi’s peaceful resistance.
So the opposition is already wrong. But what of the actual message of the protesters? Is that right or wrong? Contrary to what one might hear coming from conservatives sites, they are not demanding that millionaires live penniless in mud huts, nor for the government to give all American citizens banana cream pies 10 feet wide. Again, they are really only asking for accountability, equity and fairness and ONE set of rules by which all Americans can live.
The difference between the Tea Party and OWS is that the Tea Party had a lot more top-down direction and coordination from the GOP via Freedomworks, Tea Party Express and other organizations – it was really just a GOP version of MoveOn.org – and that’s why they had “authoritative” spokespeople and messages and why it resulted in direct political action. OWS is a lot more organic and free-form, in the spirit of true grass roots movements. I agree that this is what OWS needs to do as it’s next step – and to start sharpening a point to prompt action. And I’d anticipate that that is what this winter will bring.
November 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
By saying “doesn’t make OWS right” that is dependent on which aspect of OWS you are talking about. There are a lot of varying positions from one part of OWS to the next – and that’s one of the shortcomings of OWS, lack of unified messaging. There is no one “authoritative” OWS manifesto or spokesperson. So what someone might point at as “not right” isn’t necessarily reflective of the whole of OWS. The aim is first and foremost to get exposure and be seen, and that sets the stage and provides the venue for talking about issues like what’s going on with Corporate America.
As for hypocrisy, it’s not so much hypocrisy as it is a basic function of ubiquity and commoditized means of communication. Tweeting on an iPhone is just one of the ways things are done in these times, it’s an effective way to get the word out – if there were no iPhones or twitter, there would certainly be any other number of methods to replace it. iPhones and twitter are really not the issue and have nothing to do with it. It’s really no different than other historic efforts at leveraging the commoditized media of the time such as use of publishing and newspapers, whether Gandhi’s time or the French Revolution. Twitter is publishing and getting the word out, same as it’s been done for centuries, well before there were any iPhones.
November 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Terry
Failure to support OWS does not equate to failure to support the First Amendment.
Supporting the First Amendment does not equate to support for OWS. Just as support for the First Amendment does not equate to support for the KKK.
I believe in OWSers right to free speech, to freedom of assembly and right to address their grievances. I find it remarkable that a group lacking a unified message somehow manages to find unity when it comes to grievances, but maybe that’s just me.
I also must have missed when the opposition to OWS became unified into a single unit that could therefore be invalidated.
November 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
Again, there are two separate issues, but in either regard, here is my calculus on the two.
1.) The message
With regard to the OWS message, given it is decentralized and leaderless, and sometimes appears to be in conflict with itself – it makes more sense to visualize a Venn diagram of the many overlapping messages, and a core set of tenets emerges quite strongly, which includes such things as corporate accountability and one set of rules by which all live – as opposed to having special rules which only benefit megacorporates and multimillionaires. Completely valid aims.
Compare that with the KKK, which preaches racial hostility and intolerance. Not valid.
Perhaps clouding the issue are some of the outliers with more extreme (or possibly fictional) demands which are cherrypicked and held up by those who oppose OWS – the “I demand a banana cream pie 10 feet wide” case – however, those are outliers, not representative of the whole. If you find one nail in a box of 500 is bent, is it valid to say all of the nails are bent? No.
2.) The means
Regardless of whether it were Mother Theresa or white-hooded KKK racists, whether we like it or not, the means utilized, of non-violent assembly, free speech, and airing of grievances is perfectly valid.
The means used by the other side, of unwarranted, brutal and violent abuse by police against non-violent people, is not valid.
November 22, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Terry
“The means used by the other side, of unwarranted, brutal and violent abuse by police against non-violent people, is not valid.”
Perhaps, but this would not invalidate the opposition, just the means employed by a small percentage of them.
And for the record: http://www.nycga.net/resources/declaration/
November 22, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
When you consider the number of opposition that have actually directly engaged the OWS protesters, then it’s a very large percentage of them who have resorted to violence as a means.
The list was developed by their general assembly which is a small subset of the far bigger group. But even so, there are no outrageous demands in there saying the rich should be made penniless and live in mud huts, or that everything should be free and that we should all have banana cream pies 10 feet wide. None of those common constant criticisms of OWS are borne out by the declaration.
November 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Terry
I don’t recall mentioning mud huts or banana cream pies. And I think your math may be a little fuzzy about violence toward protesters. I’m sure you’re mistaken about its import.
I also wish you’d realize that your personal beliefs about the ‘message of OWS’ are just that – your personal beliefs. You yourself have stated more than once that OWS doesn’t have a unified, coherent message. So any message you think they stand for is not, in fact, THEIR message. I think this is why so many supporters of OWS react so harshly whenever anyone criticizes the movement – the criticism is taken as a personal attack.
As I wrote originally, Dave – I agree with most of what you first stated. Where I disagree with you is that I don’t share your belief that OWS stands for what you believe it stands for. I could even go so far as to say OWS CAN’T stand for what you believe it stands for simply because you have a coherent, organized, well-defined idea of what that is.
And those who oppose OWS really shouldn’t be stuffed into one group and painted with the same brush. If we are going to define them all by the actions of a few, then we should probably also label the protesters and their supporters as anti-Semites and sexual offenders.
November 23, 2011 at 11:08 am
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
As for “mud huts” and “banana cream pies”, go to any conservative site or listen to any conservative talking head, and you will hear over and over again that OWS just wants to completely destroy the rich and that they want everything for free and to impose global socialism. And that’s what spills over into everything else. Yet, do you actually see any of that manifest in the NYC General Assembly declaration? No. Fabrication.
As for violence toward protesters, again try and find how many verifiable instances of violence vs. protesters there are as compared to verifiable instances of violence by protesters. The former will definitely outweigh the latter no matter how you slice it.
As for my opinion of OWS, again as I said above, it comes from evaluating the many things that are out there – as I said, if you assemble a mental Venn diagram of all the things that OWS is saying, you will find what I have suggested as their aims as a core intersect – the strong signal that is repeated again and again, no matter what part of OWS you are dealing with – whereas the other conclusions that people including yourself are drawing are typically only manifest down in the outlying noise with a handful of extremists here and there.
As for your last point – that is precisely what is happening with OWS – the opposers are labeling the entire OWS by the few (socialists, lazy deadbeats who don’t want to work, sex offenders, anti-semites, et cetera) and the core tenets of OWS are being ignored by those who oppose them. Meanwhile, to compare, I don’t see those who oppose the Tea Party branding the entire Tea Party as anti-semitic, racist KKK members even though former racist, anti-semite former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke is running for office as a Tea Party candidate.
November 23, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Terry
By this stage, no one is denying the fact that OWS has no coherent, centralized message. At first, OWSers and their supporters ignored this fact and hoped everyone else would, too. Then they tried denying it for a while. When that failed, they went through a short period of grudgingly admitting it. Now, they’ve decided to embrace it.
Why? Because this very lack of coherency is being viewed by OWS supporters as a sort of political blank check. Since there is no concrete definition of OWS and its message, we can all feel free to paint the movement with our very own personal fantasy brush. We can stuff OWS into whatever mold suits our own personal agenda. This is why you don’t seem to see the inherent contradictions in the claims you make about the movement. You freely admit that OWS has no clear message, but then you claim to have firsthand knowledge of the movement’s ‘core tenets’. You claimed that the movement had no ‘manifesto’, but when I pointed you to just such a document, you dismissed it solely on the grounds that it doesn’t quite fit into YOUR personal picture of the movement.
Which is what it is, and it’s just another piece of hypocrisy to pile onto the heap. The problem comes in when you start painting all those in opposition to OWS with your same fantasy paintbrush.
“go to any conservative site or listen to any conservative talking head”
No – no, I won’t. Why? Because I don’t particularly care to hear the crap they spew. I am, in fact, about as liberal as they come. But you keep trying to pin their rhetoric on me simply because I won’t jump onto your political bandwagon. Simply because I have DARED to question the Holiness of your fantasy cause, you have decided to group me with the likes of Limbaugh and Palin (both of whom, I might add, have exuberantly embraced OWS).
I think I agree with your claim that OWS is broadcasting a ” strong signal that is repeated again and again”. But I don’t think the content of that signal is what you think it is.
But I won’t bother to try to explain this to you, simply because I don’t see any point to it. You have made it abundantly clear that you have your own agenda and that you are completely unwilling to listen to any ideas that dare to question it. And because I’m a liberal, I know that the liberal in you is rebelling against this assertion even as you read this. Luckily, you don’t have to take my word for it – all you have to do is scroll up to the top of the page and read all this crap in its entirety.
If you read the post I wrote originally – and actually read the words I wrote – you will find that the overwhelming bulk of the rhetoric you’ve been throwing around in this comment thread has very little to do with the original post.
Happy Thanksgiving.
November 29, 2011 at 9:49 am
Dave Smith (@DruidSmith)
I did enjoy my Thanksgiving, and I hope you enjoyed yours.
But again, I still think you’ve only reinforced that you still don’t really understand what Occupy is all about. There’s nothing daring about not supporting something you don’t understand, in fact it’s quite understandable.
But, let’s fix that with a simple demonstration.
Is Occupy really so vague, incoherent and unfocused, as you suggest? Is there no signal amid the noise as you suggest? Am I truly imposing my own ideas on a blank slate, as you suggest?
See this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/DruidSmith/377347_10150383225321051_180058246050_8790301_259950116_n.jpg
That’s no vague, inscrutable, incoherent blank slate.
November 29, 2011 at 5:53 pm
twindaddy
That’s one man, with one sign. If you look on OWS’s website, their purpose is vague and not clearly defined, or it was the last time I looked at it.
I’m with Terry in that I just don’t get what they want. They have clearly stated they’re fed up with corporate greed and influence but have not proposed any solutions to the problems they claim are making life difficult for the “99%”.
December 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Dave Smith
There’s thousands more signs just like it. Not so vague, and quite clearly defined.
The solution is simple – it starts with transparency and accountability.
If people can’t easily ascertain how much influence a corporate lobby has in Washington DC without going through great lengths to do it – that’s a problem.
If people who own stock in a company can’t even get a straight, honest and complete answer on what the combined salary and benefits package of the CEO is, that’s a problem.
If insurance companies are actually arguing with the government about whether they are allowed to count profits, advertising expenses and so on as “delivering healthcare to patients” – then that’s a problem.
One could go on and on with thousands of examples – each concrete, tangible issues each having its’ own tangible solution of ending the BS and correcting the problem.
The problems are many and they are all part and parcel of the same thing. But perhaps another problem that is revealed by the many who can look at a sign like the one above and STILL say “I don’t get it” goes back to a lack of critical thinking skills – something that is no longer taught, it seems.
December 5, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Terry
So – the protesters are against ‘Bad Things’. Thanks for clearing that up, Dave. For a while there, we thought they were PRO puppy-kicking.
The problem here is that the message IS vague. It is most certainly NOT clearly defined. There are thousands of signs just like that one? Really? And do they all say precisely the same things?
Of course they don’t. If they did, this wouldn’t be the roll-your-own protest that its supporters have come to embrace.
Most of us have noticed that OWS has a muddled message at best. Even the bulk of its supporters, and even a sizable portion of the protesters have come to this conclusion. You even said so yourself in previous comments.
But now you claim that OWS has a crystal clear message (which – as far as I can interpret – is: “Let’s fix EVERYTHING”). What your ‘critical thinking’ keeps missing is that YOUR message does not equate to OWS’s message. This isn’t your personal movement – you don’t get to decide what it does and does not stand for. You keep trying to stuff OWS into a mold of your own making.
And you are by no means alone in this. In fact, this kind of thinking is exactly where OWS’s fragmented message comes from. The overwhelming majority of the protesters and their supporters have dreamed up their own personal OWS message, which they are SURE (as sure as you are) is the CORRECT and TRUE message of OWS. And all these little bubbles of personal belief don’t overlap nearly as much as you think they do.
But they do – in fact – ALL overlap at one point. There is one truly clear message that every single one of them has on their personal list of grievances:
“We want more money.”
December 5, 2011 at 10:28 pm
twindaddy
That sign does not represent OWS, tool, it represents that man. Find me something on OWS website, twitter, or anything endorsed by them that says exactly what that sign says.
Critical thinking? Why don’t you put your “critical thinking” to task and head up this movement? Since you seem to know what no one else does. There are thousands of signs all saying different things. Which means that there is no unified voice. Can your critical thinking comprehend that? Doesn’t seem like it.
When OWS clearly defines what they want (go ahead, look on their actually website, not some sign that ONE person is holding) then not only will I know, but then everyone will know.
Don’t directly or indirectly imply that people are stupid because we don’t agree with you that one man holding one sign represents the entire OWS movement. Out of all of the pictures and signs I’ve seen, I’ve not seen two signs that say the same thing. So no matter what YOU say, they still have no clearly defined purpose. Hell, I saw a picture from an OWS march the other day that read “Occupy Wall Street, not Palestine.” Is that “Not so vague, and quite clearly defined?” I eagerly await your incoherent verbal defecation.
December 5, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Terry
Just so you know, folks –
All comments here have to be approved by me before they get posted. So lets all play nice.
Anyone runs with scissors, and I don’t click the happy ‘Approve’ button.